you raise taxes in this environment, this is not a growing environment, you're asking for trouble. you're rolling the dice, and i'm telling you, dividend taxes, you know, this is like insane. in any event, it is what it is. we have got to report. you got to do what you got to do. liz: president clinton did it in boom times -- >> no, he didn't. president clip clinton -- clinton did it in 93. we did not have a surplus until we had the internet bubble in 1996. that is the bottom line. i don't care what anybody says. liz: i missed that surplus, i don't care what anybody says. >> look at the gdp growth after he raised taxes. look at our economy right after -- it did not do very well. liz: charlie gasparino, thank you. your tie now is appropriate now that the segment is over. >> okay. liz: closing bell ringing in 27 minutes. confidence among you the u.s. consumer hitting a five year high this month but with the fiscal cliff looming and employment on the rocks, which retailers will come out on top this holiday season, and should you be buying their stocks? joe feldman tells the advisory g